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Hilux dual cab 4x4. With a canopy. 3M x 3M side mount at the moment...

Had one that connected to the rear but it was a Super Cheap brands and the poles just all shattered after a couple of uses.

My original intent was to put out the Awning and then set up my Cot Tent under it. Worked a few times but as stated b4, wind and or shoulder issues = problems. All about what is functional for an Over night camp OR maybe longer.

Some of the bat wing awnings look OK, but I would take PA members feedback over the reviews I see on line. And as usual some are better than others.

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Thank you for your honesty. Yes, they are freestanding for setup and teardown and for use in calm weather. The issue I have is with the claim that it is fully freestanding with no need for the legs unless the walls are attached, which is false, and now you're also confirming what we've said in this thread. However, the claim on the product page on the website doesn't say what you just said here. The way the product is presented it's made to sound like it's more sturdy or heavy-duty than the competition and your awning is fully freestanding while the competition isn't. That is misrepresentation, and I really don't like it when product claims are easily debunked. It makes it hard to trust those companies. I feel bad for people that fall for false marketing claims. Not only does it result in a poor customer experience when the product doesn't live up to its claims, but it also makes you/your company look bad.

I just wish folks would be honest from the start and it not take being called out on dubious claims first.

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Hi Drax, this is Nick. I'm the other owner of Overland Pros. I'd like to share a few things.

1) Regarding your comments on freestanding- the absence of legs does not constitute anything. Any awning can break if it gets windy enough. I think that's pretty obvious. Full disclosure- I've never used the legs on my 6k for wind or rain and its 2 years old. It's been through the ringer in Baja, Death Valley, Mojave, etc. I've used the legs with the walls so I can pull the walls really tight without torquing the arms. I consider having legs if you want to use them a bonus. From my experience, we have customers that don't have a great mounting solution to hold the awning rigidly. Either their rack is flimsy, or their mounting points are too close together (teardrop, tiny trailers, awning lift systems, yota with a 4' bed, etc). Without legs they couldn't run it. Food for thought!

2) Breakage- to date, I've never had one of our awnings break due to wind unless someone hasn't told me. I've had my RTT blow closed on me in Mojave once and in Alabama Hills once waking me up at night due to the wind. The awning was fine. Do I try to break it? Not so much anymore, but I did for a while. We have had 6 or 7 people break an arm, and every one was because they either used only 2 mounting brackets or used their own mounting solution that failed. When their brackets bend, the awning points straight vertical. When that happens, the rear arm that is ratchet-strapped open can't move downward as the awning goes to point vertically, so it snaps. Not really the awning's fault. That being said, if someone's goal is to break one, I'm sure it's entirely doable with ours or any awning out there for that matter.

3) Features- The obvious ones that you can see- our awnings all feature velcro walls and the ability to make internal rooms. We use a stronger hinge than 23 Zero, which makes it heavy and increases shipping cost a bit. OVS uses a thinner, less expensive material that doesn't fare as well in repeated folding/unfolding. If you rarely use your awning that may not be an issue for you. There are 3 other differences you can't see easily, and I won't disclose as they are minor, but they are changes we've made and if I disclose them, I'm sure the others will add them. No worries if you don't believe me. I'm just being honest. We never set out to make the cheapest route. That's what Smittybilt is for lol.

4) Us- While this matters to some and not others, I figured I'd put it down- We actually use these. I use them camping, after school with the kids at the river, and lately at a lot of kids' soccer and softball games! We use everything we sell. Come see us at the expo, and you'll see what I mean. When the show closes, you don't see us close up and go to a hotel. We sleep in our tents, stay in our booths, and actually use our products. I can't say that for the others. That's how we figure out what works and what needs tweaking. Just look at our Baja tent. We redesigned the doors and windows because, frankly, the way the competition does it sucks if you actually use the product. I'm by no means trying to persuade you to buy our product. Just trying to be transparent and to share where I come from, with the understanding you won't agree with me, and that's ok. It's a big space with room for many. Some people will like it, and some won't. I'm sorry if you felt Ted wasn't being transparent. I don't believe that was his intention.

Have a great day and come say hi if you see us at a show!
Nick

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